M1 Carbine Ammo Pouch Install

Deactivated WW2 M1 Carbine and M1 Garand: Gotta love the Americans - the M1 Garand was first really succesfull big calibre semi auto of WW2 and the M1 Carbine was a scalled down simpler version firing a suprisingly potent round (the idea was it was light, accurate with reasonable range for officers and tankers to use more effectivly than a pistol). Perhaps the most common accessory used on the M1 carbine was a standard magazine belt pouch that was mounted to the right side of the stock and held two extra 15-round magazines. This field adaptation was never officially approved, but proved an efficient method to supply extra ammunition in combat. M1 Garand Parts Spare Spring Set - Full Replacement Set; M1 Garand Parts Spare Spring Set - Basic.50 Cal USGI Surplus Ammo Cans 70s Vintage.50 Cal Surplus Ammo Storage Cans M2A1; M1 / M1A1.30 Cal Ammo Can WWII Vintage; M1.30 Ammo Can WWII Vintage.30 Ammo Can Surplus Used GI - Good; 1919A6 Bipod Browning BMG USGI 30-06; M1 Garand Rubber Butt. Re: M1 carbine ammo pouch Post by Tuna » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:45 pm Now if you mount it on the stock then take so electrical tape and cover the snap on the inside of the pouch.

Gotta love the Americans - the M1 Garand was first really succesfull big calibre semi auto of WW2 and the M1 Carbine was a scalled down simpler version firing a suprisingly potent round (the idea was it was light, accurate with reasonable range for officers and tankers to use more effectivly than a pistol). Both are classic WW2 pieces of kit, just check out the ones below: Wow, did we grab a batch of these when they came up - the much misunderstood American M1 carbine, serving with the US forces from `42 onwards when they realised the need for something small and light for officers and tankers - but better than a pistol - they came up with the M1 Carbine - surprisingly light and simple, they had plenty of stopping power from the .30 pistol cartridge, just not much after 100 yards or so - hence the reputation - still loads better than banging away with a pistol! These new-spec deactivated M1 carbines do not cock but have fully moving bolts and triggers, mag ejects and the gun strips - kinda got a lot of these so they`re out on special!!!

Please check out the examples below:

Here's a excellent full wood stocked late 1943 deactivated M1 Carbine - really nice dark tone matching original woodwork with a few battle bruises, period stuff. This one comes with a period `42 dated sling and oiler, `42 date butt pouch and 2 spare 15 round mags with 3 inerts in each spare mag. New EU spec deactivation, mag ejects, trigger moves etc. and comes with correct EU certificate of deactivation.

WW2 `43 deactivated M1 Carbine plus dated sling, butt pouch and 2 spare mags and inerts:


£755

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Just love this Garand - a WW2 relic dug up in Northern France, complete breach/barrel and top bolt, gas tube and lower section rotted away but thats all covered by the re-fitted woodwork so it looks almost complete (no trigger housing assembly, though maybe a repro set would fit?). No need to deactivate as its section 58 antique/curio 'deactivated by other means').


Relic US WW2 M1 Garand with re-fitted woodwork, dug up in Northern France, great piece of history:

£995


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Here`s a great example of what an experienced re-enactor can do with a replica M1 Carbine. This all metal/wood replica cocks and dry fires but has been really well aged with a nice deep tone to woodwork and some gentle distressing to the metalwork - nothing over the top, to be honest, its pretty much impossible to tell the difference with this one and threal thing from close up yet alone a few metres away!.


Replica M1 Carbine, nicely aged with sling and oil bottle:

£275


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Same as the above replica M1 Carbine but its the neat folding stock paratrooper version. Woodwork and metalwork has been nicely aged and really looks the part - cocks and dry fires as well. A real deal deactivated M1 Carine Para thats deactivated will set you back over £2k, so this ones a steal..


Replica M1 Paratrooper Carbine, aged and looks spot on:

£285


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Alas there are just no deactivated Garands around at the moment, but we did pick up this rather good replica - all metal replica Garand which has been aged plus very good aged woodwork has been fitted, close as we can get to the real thing at the moment and it cocks and dry fires as well plus comes with a correct leather sling.


Replica M1 Garand with aged woodwork plus sling, cocks and dry fires:

£295


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Cool, very few deactivated M1 Garands to be had at the moment and we loved it when this excellent example arrived complete with bayonet, scabbard, leather sling, inerts and whats that in the butt - only the mega rare cleaning kit - awesome! Its a postwarlate `40`s Springfield made Garand, all original, moving charging handle under spring pressure and comes with correct deactivation certificate.

US M1 Garand with all the kit - just epic!:


£1795

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M1 Carbine 30 Round Pouch

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M1 Carbine Pouch Manufacturers


Accessories

M1 Carbine Ammo Belt



M1 Carbine Magazine Pouch

National AgenciesAdditional Info
GendarmerieBundespolizeiAccessoriesOddities
BundesheerZollTraining Rifles

Leather Slings (Leder Gewehrriemen, Lederriemen, Leder Trageriemen)

The Austrian Bundesheer used U.S. issue canvas slings provided as military assistance. The Bundespolizei and Gendarmerie used leather slings. Uniform leather gear used by the Bundespolizei was dyed black. For the Gendarmerie the leather was dyed brown.

Leather gear used by the Austrian Gendarmerie post WWII was manufactured by Stolla of Vienna (Stolla Wien). Stolla had manufactured leather accessories for the Austrian Bundespolizei, Gendarmerie, and military since the 1920's. After the war the products they made for the military and police were restricted to those of Austria only. Stolla went out of business in 1970.

The M1 carbine slings manufactured by Stolla for the gendarmerie were approximately .09-.180' thick, .97' wide , and 51-52' long. Original dimensions changed slightly with wear and use of the sling. The thicker slings did not fit through the stock's slingwell with the standard U.S. oiler (see below). Some can be made to work by softening the leather before feeding it around the U.S. oiler. The buckle was made using heavy gauge wire


Leather slings very similar in dimensions and appearance to those made by Stolla were also used by the Austrian Gendarmerie.
Possibly manufactured after Stolla closed. These slings do not have a manufacturers mark or gendarmerie markings.

Special thanks to Glen Efinger who has helped much in sorting these out.


Buckles made by Stolla were made using heavy gauge brass wire approximately
1.20' in diameter, 1.29-1.30' in height, and 1.15-1.16' wide.

Procurement Office Acceptance Marks

1st Gendarmerie-Beschaffungsamt 56
(Gendarmerie procurement office 1956)
1st Abteilung Section, 5C, 59
(Gendarmerie procurement office 1959)
1st Abteilung Section, 5C, 62
(Gendarmerie procurement office 1962)

Agency Markings

Occasionally the name of the gendarmerie office and/or gendarme may be found on the slings.

Landes Gendarmerie Kommando NiederOsterreich
(Lower Austria)

Bezirksgendarmeriekommando
Volkermarkt, Karnten
(District Gendarmerie Command, the town of Volkermarkt, Carinthia)

Replacement Oilers


The thickness of some of the leather slings prevent their use with a U.S. GI oiler. Some of these slings will work if treated with a leather softener.
Some of the slings are simply too thick to work with the U.S. GI oiler. Plastic dowels smaller in diameter were cut to the length of the oilers and used by the gendarmerie.

Leather Magazine Pouches (Leder Magazintasche or Patronen Tasche)

Stolla also manufactured leather magazine pouches for use by the Austrian police and gendarmerie. Stolla pouches are marked Stolla Wien on the backside, have an adjustable strap for carrying the pouch on the carbine buttstock or uniform belt, and a flap that folds over the magazines and is secured by sliding a hole in the flap over a metal knob on the front of the pouch. Stolla manufactured a single 15 round magazine pouch and a pouch that held two 15 round magazines side by side.

The polizei uniform leather was black. The Gendarmerie uniform leather was brown. The Bundesheer used the U.S. issue canvas magazine pouches.

The Gendarmerie metal pouch trim designated the rank of the officer they were assigned too.

  • Officers in charge:
  • Metal or Plastic
  • Unter Officers (NCO's):
  • Silver
  • Officers:
  • Gold


Stolla's leather pouch for the Gendarmerie holds two 15 round M1 carbine magazines. Strap adjusts for wear on uniform belt or butt of carbine. Back of pouch is imprinted with Stolla trademark (above). Inside of this pouch is stamped GBA 1964, which is the Gendarmerie procurement office initials and the year the pouch was received from Stolla.


Advertisement in June 2001 circular from Tennessee Guns for black leather
magazine pouches from the Austrian police. Tennessee Guns sold many
of the M1 carbines imported from Austria by INTRAC of Knoxville, TN.

Not all of the leather gear for Austria's police and gendarmerie was manufactured by Stolla. The magazine pouches below do not have a manufacturer's imprint or mark and are not adjustable for the carbine stock, they were worn on the uniform belt only. The pouches below are identifiable as belonging to the Austrians by the markings under the flap. As can be seen in the pictures, the markings varied somewhat. Pouches from the same manufacturer may have been used in Germany.


Black leather used by the Bundespolizei (these were used by the Vienna Polizei). Brown leather used by the Gendarmerie.


Handprinted under the flap of several pouches are the surname of the officer(s) they were assigned too.
Some of the pouches have the serial number of an M1 carbine. Each person was assigned one M1 carbine,
one rifle sling, and one ammo pouch.

Zinn: Sergeant / Inspector
Glebe: Master Sergeant / District Inspector
Verelnnchint: Received
Bestundibuch Nr: Inventory Book Number
Seite: Page
Nr: Number
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The belt loop fit only the uniform belt, not over the stock like those made by Stolla.
These brown pouches appear to have been black ones that were sprayed brown.

Barrel Muzzle Cap

Harsh winter weather conditions led a number of European countries to find alternatives to cloth or metal muzzle caps for protecting rifle barrels from the elements. During WWII the Russians, and Germans on the eastern front, used a muzzle cap made of rubber that was designed to be shot through, or off, and later replaced. With the advent of plastics, a number of countries switched from rubber to plastic. The Austrians designed a plastic muzzle cap for the M1 carbine that served this same purpose.

Rear Sight Protectors

These rear sight protectors for the U.S. adjustable rear sight have been found on U.S. M1 carbines utilized by Zoll Wache (Tariff Guards). They are constructed of a rubber coated metal plate on either side of the sight, overlapping the sight edges. They're held in place by a screw forward and aft of the sight adjustment.

Image by www.euroarms.net, © 2007

These have not been observed on any other M1 carbines used by the other Austrian agencies.

Ammunition (Patronen)

Hirtenberger Patronen und Rohrwerke

  • manufacturer of various .30 Caliber Carbine cartridges, including plastic cartridges

    Hirtenberger case markings
  • HP
  • HP Gend (for the Austrian Gendarmerie)
  • HP with an unknown polizei marking (for the Austrian Polizei)
  • HP 30M1 K7.62 (for the Austrian Bundesheer)
  • Note: INTRAC received their M1 carbines from Austria in Hirtenberger munitions tubes, two carbines to a tube. Hirtenberger manufactures various large caliber ammunition for tanks, artillery, etc.

    Blank Ammunition (Knall Patronen)

    Südsteirischen Metallindustrie (South Steyr Metallurgy)
  • Plastic blank cartridges for the Bundesheer

    paper bag containing 100 rounds of plastic cartridges

    The plastic cartridges have no head case markings
    and a larger primer. PMC casing is for comparison
    only.


    The primer & brass casing head are attached to a
    one piece black plastic casing approximately 2.2 mm thick.

    The black plastic 'bullet' is not a bullet at all, it's the end of the plastic casing.
    The X at the end releases the blast from the gunpowder ignition.
    (brass casing and full jacketed bullet is caliber .30 carbine mfg. by PMC, shown for comparison purposes only)

    (Südsteirischen Metallindustrie ammo courtesy Roger Mickelson)

    Dummy Cartridges

    GECO: Genschow Co. is now owned by the major ammunition manufacturing conglomerate RUAG Ammotec, based in Austria but with manufacturing facilities throughout Europe.
  • Non firing Dummy Cartridges for Zoll (Tariff Guard)


    Image by www.euroarms.net, © 2007

    Cleaning Kit used by the Gendarmerie for the M1 carbine

    The rifle cleaning kit for the German K98 rifle was introduced in 1934 and designated M34. The above User Manual indicates this was the same cleaning kit issued to the gendarme for cleaning the M1 carbine.

    Gendarmerie Karabiner M1 User Manual

    In 1957 the Ministry of the Interior published a User Manual for the Gendarmerie. The manual is is approximately 3' wide x 4.5' tall with the front and back covers made from water resistant vinyl. The manual consists of 68 pages covering the operation, maintenance, use, disassembly and cleaning of the M1 carbine. Illustrations are high quality with photographs depicting the more important procedures.

    The inside cover of the below manual is stamped in ink with the date December 2, 1984 and the central Gendarmerie school in Mödling, in the state of Lower Austria.


    vinyl protective covering

    Introduction

    Table of Contents

    Gendarme w/ KM1

    Gendarmerie Karabiner M1 Drill

    In 1959 the Ministry of the National Defense published a Training Regulation Manual for the Bundesheer. The manual is is approximately 3' wide x 4.5' tall with the front and back covers made from water resistant vinyl. The manual consists of 107 pages covering basic training regulations, including 3 pages of drill instructions for the M1 carbine. This training manual was also issued to the Gendarmerie.

    The inside cover of the below manual is stamped in ink with the date January 13, 1982 and the central Gendarmerie school in Mödling, in the state of Lower Austria.


    Cover Page

    Drill Instructions

    Gendarmerie Almanac

    The Gendarmerie published an almanac every couple years. The below example is from 1958 and consists of 455 pages detailing command structure, Gendarmerie posts throughout the entire nation, and the personnel assigned to each of the posts. Some of the slings and/or ammo pouches have the names of the personnel and/or the serial numbers of the M1 carbines they carried. This almanac allows us to determine where an individual, and their M1 carbine, was assigned in Austria. The next almanac I could locate was for 1964.

    Research requests for individuals whose name is known are accepted by contacting me via the discussion forum.


    Cover Page

    Gendarmerie stations in Lower Austria (94)

    Gendarmerie Command for Lower Austria
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